[Dev] Fwd: XUL-based Integra GUI

Jamie Bullock jb at integralive.org
Tue Dec 16 22:16:23 GMT 2008


Hi Steve,

It's really great to see this stuff in svn now. I don't think i'd fully
appreciated the extent of the libIntegra 'integration' (sic) until I
read your commit messages -- it's very satisfying to see this.

We had a fairly detailed discussion off-list before you posted to the
list, so I won't repeat my comments here other than to say that I find
this 'offline webapp' approach really promising especially with respect
the separation of presentation and application logic. As I mentioned --
I have some thoughts along these lines wrt individual module GUIs. If I
get time over the vacation, I'll chalk up a proposal for this on the
wiki and solicit feedback. It would be great to get other people's
comments on your XULrunner app too...

best,

Jamie


On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 12:00 -0500, Stephen Sinclair wrote:
> Now that the list is working again.. :)
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Stephen Sinclair <sinclair at music.mcgill.ca>
> Date: Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM
> Subject: XUL-based Integra GUI
> To: dev at integralive.org
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I'm almost embarrassed to say that I have had this sitting in my home
> folder for about 3 months now, but I was stuck on a problem of getting
> Open Sound Control working on OS X, and it hit "backburner" status.  I
> didn't feel I could put it out there until this was working.  Finally
> I got it working today, after much frustration I discovered it was a
> single stupid little change I forgot to copy over from the Linux
> version...!  So anyway I'm proud now to show you a little bit of work
> I did toward the end of the summer:  A prototype for a XULrunner-based
> GUI for Integra.  It's not really functional (surprised?) but it is
> able to communicate with the Integra server over OSC and instantiate
> modules.  It doesn't really do everything the Max/MSP version does,
> but it's a start.  There is a "dummy" mode where you can try a little
> more functionality like creating cues and events, and drag & drop
> events into cues.  You can also click on modules, events, and cues, to
> delete them.
> 
> The whole interface is jQuery, XHTML, and CSS.  There are several
> advantages to this approach:
> 
> - The "look and feel" is entirely separated from the application logic.
> - Text is properly internationalized by keeping strings in locale files.
> - It could be ported pretty easily to a real web-oriented version by
> replacing Open Sound Control with XMLHttpRequest.
> - XULrunner is open source and completely cross-platform.  There is
> only a tiny bit of C++ to hook into LibLo for doing OSC.
> - The Mozilla code base is perfect for an XML-centric approach to data
> as used in Integra.
> 
> jQuery makes it _slick_ too. :)  I stole some of the web design from
> the integralive.org site, of course.
> 
> The question, as always, is how modules and connections should be
> represented and where to go from here.  (They are just connection-less
> boxes for now.)
> 
> Anyways, I'll be dropping the source into the subversion repository
> sometime soon; I should probably clean up my commit log a bit first to
> make it legible.  In the meantime, enjoy:
> 
> Mac:
> http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~sinclair/pub/integra/Integra-XUL-0.1.dmg
> 
> Linux (source):
> http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~sinclair/pub/integra/Integra-XUL-0.1.tar.bz2
> 
> The Mac version is universal and comes with XULrunner in the bundle.
> The Linux version requires you to have XULrunner-1.9 installed.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Steve
> 
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